2/28 Iliad Assignment

DUE WED 2/28 Iliad Assignment
The Iliad Book 9 pp. 266-275 lines 521-869 (end of Book 9)

1. Write a question you have about the text, either an interpretive question that you have an opinion on, or something that you don't understand. You don't need to write the answer.
Does Phoenix's attempt to get at Achilles' emotions ever affect him in a way that would benefit the Achaean army? If so, how?

2. What was your opinion of Achilles before reading Book 9?
Before reading book 9 I had a point of view on Achilles where I would back him no matter what his decisons were, I think this may be because the author made him to fit into a more protagonist role. After reading this section my view on him really doesn't change, he is still the headstrong character that he was in the beginning. The only thing that I would say is different is that now he believes even more for his cause to boycott than he did earlier.

1. Appeal to reason (logic - does it “make sense” to do what the speaker says)
2. Appeal to emotion (does it try to make you happy, sad, angry etc… in an attempt to get you to act or think a certain way)
3. Appeal to ethics (right and wrong, moral principals - does it get you to think that a particular thought is morally right or wrong to get you to act or think a certain way)

Who is speaking?
Odysseus

What does the person say and to whom do they say it?
To the Achaens: "And the steady, long-enduring Odysseus replied, 'Great marshal Atrides, lord of men Agamemnon, that man has no intention of quenching his rage. he's still bursting with anger, more than ever- he spurns you, he spurns all your gifts. Work out your own defense, he says , you and your captains save the Argive armies and the ships. Himself? Achilles threatens tomorrow at first light, to haul his well-benched warships out to sea. And whats more, he advises all the rest, 'sail home now. You will never set your eyes on the day of doom that topples looming Troy. Thundering Zeus has spread his hands above her...her armies have taken heart.'"

What persuasive strategy is this? Evidence?
I think this is appeal to ethics. Odysseus is explaining to the army how bad he thinks that Agamemnon is. And he uses evidence against him that makes him look like he is not trustworthy. It makes the army not like him anymore.


Who is speaking:
Phoenix

What does this person say and to whom does he say it?
He is speaking to Achilles on lines 780-782: " Achilles, put some human kindness in your heart. Show respect for your own house."

What persuasive strategy is it? Evidence?
The persuasive strategy of appealing to ethics. Why it is an example of this strategy: I think that this is the persuasive strategy of appealing to ethics because in ancient Greek times, you were pledged to your house and you were loyal to them. It would be dishonorable and unethical for Achilles to go against his own house at this time, because it would mean that he was not loyal to his pledge.